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    Default Any opinions on paint?

    I'm within a month or two of painting my EX and I would welome opinions on paint. Specifically:

    1) I like the idea of keeping it light so leaving the underbelly, tailfeathers, and rear parts of the wing just Polyspray makes sense but I'm concerned about life expectency, especially on a sea plane. Anyone having problems with the exposed Poly-spray after a few years? I guess at worst it should be easy to touch up unlike some coatings.

    2) The CC manual calls for PPG DUHS polyeurethane paint, the Polyfiber manual says no, use PolyTone or Ranthane or Aerothane but not automotive paints. PolyTone looks easy to spray and easy to repair, but its not good on metal. It's also not glossy but I'm not sure I care. Would appreciate hearing what others have done and what their experience is.

    I owned a new Maule and the paint was really pretty good - I think they use Randolf products. Owned a 2003 T206H and the paint was HORRIBLE. Came off the leading edge in big flakes within a couple years. Hence my concern for doing it right the first time..... I dont want to be building another paint booth in 5 years.

    Thanks!

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    I used Ranthane over Poly Tone on the whole plane it weighed 892lbs and it holds up better than Poly Tone but you are right its harder to fix.
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    I used Poly Tone on all fabric surfaces and flattened Aerothane on aluminum and carbon fiber parts to match the Poly Tone. Poly Tone is claimed to be lighter than the polyurathanes.

    I wouldn't leave a surface as bare poly spray. It isn't meant to be a top coat.

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    Default Re: Any opinions on paint?

    Quote Originally Posted by rlinford View Post
    I'm within a month or two of painting my EX and I would welcome opinions on paint. Specifically:

    1) I like the idea of keeping it light so leaving the underbelly, tail feathers, and rear parts of the wing just Polyspray makes sense but I'm concerned about life expectancy, especially on a sea plane. Anyone having problems with the exposed Poly-spray after a few years? I guess at worst it should be easy to touch up unlike some coatings.
    The silver that you see on the CC performance paint scheme is NOT Polyspray. It is silver Poly Tone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete D View Post
    The silver that you see on the CC performance paint scheme is NOT Polyspray. It is silver Poly Tone.
    Ok, thanks. That makes more sense. I though I recalled someone telling me that but I must have misheard.

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    For those contemplating painting their EX, our experience may be helpful in making the decision to paint your airplane. We elected to paint EX #16 with Polyfiberís Ranthane. There is nothing wrong with Ranthane, we saw a show quality paint job at Oshkosh that was done with this paint, but it is very different from some of the other choices. If we had stopped painting after a coat of polytone all would have been fine. Unfortunately, we wanted a glossy paint job and that is when the difficulty started.

    Our biggest mistake was making a paint booth. It was too small, not well ventilated, bad lighting and overall, a miserable place. It needs to be large enough to get around your work and absolutely essential to have enough fans to pull the overspray out.

    We tried numerous combinations of compressors and guns before we were able to get satisfactory results from a Croix turbine. It was no better than some of the compressor guns, but no worse with the exception of the big hose. Ranthane requires external breathing equipment, a full suit and a hood which adds to the difficulty of seeing how the material is being applied and in general, makes for a really unpleasant work environment.

    Our learning curve was steep, we could not get this paint to flow well using the recommended reduction. Initially we had orange peel, but after trial and error, and a few calls to the manufacture, we found that nearly doubling the reducer would solve the flow problem, however, we had to be very careful not to get runs with the thin mixture. Multiple, thin, wet coats seem to work best. Too much paint results in runs, orange peel, solvent pop and overspray problems. Too little paint and it looks like sandpaper. Knowing the right technique to spray this material is really an art, and not the same as auto painting. For these reasons, it is difficult to find someone that truly knows how to work with Ranthane. It is a very sticky paint, cleaning overspray is not an option, but once it is cured, it is very hard but remains flexible.

    While Ranthane is one of the few choices for fabric, there are easier materials to spray. We canít complain about the results, although it was a bumpy road getting here. In retrospect, had we seen Mitchís excellent paint video earlier, it is likely we would have used PPG.

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    I have used poly tone, it's a very easy paint to use, easy for repairs, flat finish. scale of 1-10,,,, a 6. it won't stay looking good very long. Aerothane, I've painted two airplanes with this paint. VERY easy to use, lays down good, flows great! Shiny finish, I would give it a 9, down side, it's kind of heavy, hard for repairs but very easy to work with.
    I'm going to try the Stewart System on a skyraider before I use it on my EX, I'm a ways off painting my CC, will keep you posted.

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    I painted the first one with Ranthane pretty easy to paint but hard to fix. Painted the second one with PPG yellow and Poly-Tone silver the yellow looks great easy to paint but again hard to fix and you were right the silver looks ok for a short period of time. Just finished painting number 3 with PPG single stage yellow and base coat clear coat silver I had talked to Mitch before I did the silver the Company had problems with base coat clear coat the fabric was giving off gases that were bleeding thru and discoloring the clear, so once I got the poly-spray on I painted one coat of Rathane over the Poly-Spray then sprayed the base coat then the clear coat I will let you know how that works, but again its hard to fix. I guess the answer is don't have to fix it.
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    Mitch's Paint Video was mentioned but I cannot find it. Where can it be seen?
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel Cub View Post
    Mitch's Paint Video was mentioned but I cannot find it. Where can it be seen?
    Thanks
    Call Mitch on Mon. the video is in Drop Box and he has to get you into it.
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