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[Springloaded]

I’ll try to catch up tonight

[Cody]

First 2 days went well 14hrs Fri Florida to Tulsa long day. Saturday took it easy Tulsa to Casper. Didn’t miss to many sandbars and Farm fields when we needed a break.

You know I don't want to sound like a buzz kill, but, QUIT LANDING ON OTHER PEOPLES CROPS. Thats their income. Your going to create problems for the whole industry. Please be courteous. There are plenty of places to land other than someones livelihood.

[stede52]

I think we would all agree with you Cody, however, in defense of Chuck I didn’t hear him say anything about landing on a crop field, farmers fields yes, but not crop fields.

[Cody]

I think we would all agree with you Cody, however, in defense of Chuck I didn’t hear him say anything about landing on a crop field, farmers fields yes, but not crop fields.

Maybe you should look at the photos. Looks like thousands of acres of CRP or grassland just on the other side of the fence. Didn't have to land in the wheat field.

[Rudy]

Maybe you should look at the photos. Looks like thousands of acres of CRP or grassland just on the other side of the fence. Didn't have to land in the wheat field.

You sound like an expert. What is your estimate in dollars, the damage would be to the wheat yield of the field in the picture. Just asking so that everyone reading this can learn.

[Cody]

You sound like an expert. What is your estimate in dollars, the damage would be to the wheat yield of the field in the picture. Just asking so that everyone reading this can learn.

Not much damage really. Wouldn't amount to much money. That is not the point. Maybe I should go to your house and piss on your porch. Thats the point. Have some respect.

[John Hodges]

Gentlemen,

Hopefully we can all agree that our freedom to fly is precious and must be carefully nurtured. Part of that is ensuring that we don't mobilize opposition to it, especially when landing off-airport. The folks at the Recreational Aviation Foundation work long and hard with public agencies and private landowners to open more and more territory for our use. All of us need to stay mindful that we don't undo their diligent efforts on our behalf.

Everyone who enjoys cub-type aircraft should consider joining and contributing in some way to the RAF. One way to contribute is to make sure we give due respect to the property of others, using the greatest discretion where active farming or ranching efforts are apparent. Some open land locations are highly unlikely to create offense. I have no idea what the particular circumstances were here, but I think Cody's point was that a wheat field under cultivation is less likely to be included in that category.

[Cubdriver2]

We go in and out of a bunch of farm fields out here. Pete and I both grew up on farms, Pete on his family farm and me milkng cows on a rented farm. One thing you learn real quick is that other then making hay a Farmer doesn't even drive in his own field between cuttings. The ones we visit we are invited into and we only try to land when we won't do any damage. I think Chuck is a city boy and didn't know any better

Glenn

[40m]

There should be an offset for the free urea that was applied.

[Rudy]

Not much damage really. Wouldn't amount to much money. That is not the point. Maybe I should go to your house and piss on your porch. Thats the point. Have some respect.

I didn't see any damage either. I prefer to have permission to land on someone's property, but that is not always possible. I would guess that everyone on this forum would not knowingly damage crops, and I think we know to respect other people's property and anything on other people property. I live in a area surrounded by farmers that put in thousands of acres of crops. Some.of those fields border my family's property. We don't seem to have a problem with big tired Cubs damaging crops. Maybe that is an out west problem? I can say that no farmer has asked me if I minded having toxic pesticides and other chemicals runoff onto my land and drinking water. The point I make with that statement is you can pretty much take anyone's actions and make it look like they are doing something wrong. Yes, respect can be important.