Thread: Best Battery for our Carbon Cubs?

  1. #51
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Hayesville, NC
    Posts
    123

    Default Re: Best Battery for our Carbon Cubs?

    The ballistic battery that Wick's is selling is the Lithium Fe (iron) battery. There is a good review comparison between the Ballistic and the Shorai that one of the motorcycle groups did. They both compared favorably in the tests. The one point that was negative for the Shori were the flimsy terminals, which may not hold up to the vibration. Ballistic is also coming out with a 16 cell version. Either one looks like a good way to save weight without a huge price penalty.

    http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcyc...le-battery.htm

    Tony

  2. #52
    Senior Member RanRan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    St. Clair Shores, MI
    Posts
    232

    Default Re: Best Battery for our Carbon Cubs?

    Quote Originally Posted by clipwingcub View Post
    . Either one looks like a good way to save weight without a huge price penalty.
    Tony
    You're right. Knocking 12 pounds of weight off the Carbon Cub by exchanging batteries is well worth the price. This is just an example of advancement by technology that has been sorely missing by the strangulating effect of insurance companies over the aviation industry for, what, the last 80 years?

    Nobody wants to be first on stuff like this. It takes courage. Does innovative courage pay off in the market place? You bet. My hat is off to CC for doing the testing. Very cool.
    Last edited by RanRan; 07-13-2011 at 07:44 PM.

  3. #53
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Palm Beach, FL
    Posts
    205

    Default Re: Best Battery for our Carbon Cubs?

    Wellllllllllllll? I tried the Shorai Lithium battery and its not ready for prime time on a high compression motor. They have fixed the terminal issue written about below but First one had an immediate short in it and stranded me first flight until I found a nice feller who jumped me with his truck. Second one worked fine but still does not have enough cranking power on hot starts to top the Extreme x2 battery which still comes out the winner by a significant margin. I also ended up changing out starters and found I had a weak starter to boot. The testing was both before and after replacement of the starter. Interestingly the Lithium battery by Shorai advertises 270 CCA and the Extreme x2 advertises 220 CCA and is still far superior. I expect that the Lithium Iron batterys will improve over time shortly however as that weight savings is huge. Thats my pirep . Best Gary
    Last edited by glickle; 09-20-2011 at 04:47 AM.

  4. #54
    Senior Member randylervold's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Yakima, WA
    Posts
    1,378

    Default Re: Best Battery for our Carbon Cubs?

    Gary,

    Sorry to hear you did not have a good experience with the Shorai Power. We have had one installed in N155PC for several months now and it's working fine. With the regualr battery it would often not turn over when hot, in fact it did that to me twice. With the Shorai it has been working flawlessly. There was a known "bad batch" that Shorai acknowledges, any chance you still have a bad one?

    This technology looks promising so we are continuing to pursue it.
    Randy Lervold

  5. #55
    Member reileyr's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    San Antonio, TX
    Posts
    40

    Default Re: Best Battery for our Carbon Cubs?

    Randy, what model number Shorai battery are you using? Will it fit in a S-1 battery compartment? If not, is there an alternative Shorai battery that will fit?
    Last edited by reileyr; 09-23-2011 at 06:45 PM.

  6. #56
    Senior Member randylervold's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Yakima, WA
    Posts
    1,378

    Default Re: Best Battery for our Carbon Cubs?

    Shorai Power LXF18A1-BS12. It is physically smaller than the standard battery but comes with a bunch of foam pads that let you shim it so it doesn't rattle. We are running these batteries in both our Carbon Cub and Sport Cub here at CC with excellent results but there have been customer installations where the battery didn't perform. We don't know the reason for these variable results yet.
    Randy Lervold

  7. #57
    Member reileyr's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    San Antonio, TX
    Posts
    40

    Default Re: Best Battery for our Carbon Cubs?

    Thanks, I just ordered a Shorai and expecting for excellent results.

  8. #58
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Denver, Colorado
    Posts
    179

    Default Re: Best Battery for our Carbon Cubs?

    Okay, despite the Sears battery tender, my battery finally died. What is the official best choice replacement advice from Cubcrafters? I need to order one ASAP.

  9. #59
    Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    Hartford, Oh
    Posts
    29

    Default Re: Best Battery for our Carbon Cubs?

    Just saw an Aerovoltz 12 cell which is all of 2.5 lbs. and has 410 CCA. It is in a Piper Cub and the owner says it turns over better than anything he has ever used. Anyone ever heard of this model? Will call CC tomorrow and see if I can get it put in #203 due next month.

  10. #60
    Senior Member Dan L's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Montana
    Posts
    766

    Default Re: Best Battery for our Carbon Cubs?

    Anyone have experience with this battery? http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalo...atphighpwr.php

    It is called a ATP Ultrastart. A couple of Cub guys are using it and it seems popular with the Rotax users. The weight is 4.4 pounds and physically it is 2.7" long x 3.5" wide x 5.0" high.
    Flying Carbon Cub EX #11 since 2011

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •