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    Default Keeping CG within aft limit

    When loaded, seems awfully easy to get the CG aft of the 78.5" aft limit. Any of you Carbon Cub drivers have a hard time keeping yours w/in limits when loaded? Either 1320 SS's or 1860 FX/EXs?

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    Default Re: Keeping CG within aft limit

    My EX is setup for 81” aft CG limits @1865 that helps


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    Default Re: Keeping CG within aft limit

    Quote Originally Posted by jasimmons View Post
    When loaded, seems awfully easy to get the CG aft of the 78.5" aft limit. Any of you Carbon Cub drivers have a hard time keeping yours w/in limits when loaded? Either 1320 SS's or 1860 FX/EXs?

    Thanks,

    Andrew
    No problem for me. I have an Excel setup for calculating W&B. Here's a sample:


    Enter Enter
    Sample W & B gallons fuel Weight Arm Moment
    weight of pilot: 175.0 71.4 12495
    weight of rear passenger: 180.0 96.1 17298
    forward cargo (max 100 pounds): 15.0 110.4 1656
    ext. baggage weight (max 60 pounds): 60.0 134.4 8064
    gallons of fuel (44 maximum): 13.0 78.0 83.9 6544.2
    Center of Gravity is inches from Datum: 75.8 Forward CG limit is 69.0" aft limit is 81.0" (Datum is 60.0" in front of LE)
    Total weight: 1517.6 Gross weight is 1865 pounds
    Total moment: 115021.6
    Weight under gross: 347.4
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    Default Re: Keeping CG within aft limit

    Where does 81" come from. The POH and W&B sheet on the dropbox both quote 79" as the aft limit

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    Default Re: Keeping CG within aft limit

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Albery View Post
    Where does 81" come from. The POH and W&B sheet on the dropbox both quote 79" as the aft limit
    81” is aft limit for EX


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    Default Re: Keeping CG within aft limit

    Quote Originally Posted by N867SP View Post
    81” is aft limit for EX


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    Default Re: Keeping CG within aft limit

    EX2 is quoted as 79" aft limit.

    It seems odd that it has changed from EX.

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    I wonder what the reasoning was for moving the aft limit forward 2”? The EX2 has more nose-down trim than the original EX too. There is probably an inch greater up horizontal stabilizer travel in the new style.
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    Default Re: Keeping CG within aft limit

    I have mine at 81 and there is no reason for it not to be. I think the 81 is on the x cub too. I asked the factory at the time and they said use 81. Anything less and it is just not going to take the load. As Dan said, it has much more trim to help even more on the EX2.


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    Default Re: Keeping CG within aft limit

    Quote Originally Posted by TroyBranch View Post
    I have mine at 81 and there is no reason for it not to be. I think the 81 is on the x cub too. I asked the factory at the time and they said use 81. Anything less and it is just not going to take the load. As Dan said, it has much more trim to help even more on the EX2.


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    How did you document the 81" aft CG? The only way I see that one could get to 1865 and not be aft would be if I gained about 200 lbs.

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